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Jon

There's always a minority that make the good guys look bad!! Most prs are good , honest and sensible!

Dennis Howlett

I'd love to meet the 'most' in Jon's comment. For me, Andrew absolutely nails it.

Shane McGinley

Reponse Source is useful but I wonder does it make some journalist lazy and they get too dependent on it. And then you only get PR driven stuff and not on the ground material? There isn't an Irish version which sometimes is good as you can find interesting things when you go out searching yourself. But yes I also never attach my phone number - did once and phone never stopped ringing and after about 10 calls got annoying.

Truth Not Spin

I am in no doubt that people - whether in PR or not - need to read first, then action. BUT...

I'm bored of reading these 'hilarious' articles about the 'hilarious ineptitude' of PRs. Certain journalists need to spend less time on either using Response Source or slagging off PRs and get back on the beat. Do some real research (rather than using RS to have it delivered on a plate) and give journalism (IT journalism especially) a better image...

And how can jouralists talk anyway?! Isn't it about time PRs started writing about "Journalist Blindness"? For example, you confirm in triplicate with regards a phone interview, only for the journalist to email questions instead! You arrange - and confirm in triplicate - an interview venue, only for the journalist to turn up at the wrong place?!

Doctor Spin

I'm more than happy to consider issues PRs have with journalists.

Penny

Surely if all journalists had the time to do their own research and be perfectly organised, PR wouldn't exist as we know it? Let's not bite the hand that feeds us!
Having been on both sides of the fence, the production times in journalism are ferocious and the pay pretty poor, except for a select few. I've been delayed by the start time on a press release being off by at least half an hour, so I was late for the next interview and was duly roasted: it doesn't make for a good day by the time I got to my fourth meeting and I still had deadlines to hit.
Life on the PR side of the fence is not perfect, but it is often less pressurised and usually better paid (although probably not as great as the media think: a lot more background work goes in than is charged for). And it's not all about snew stories: it's about engaging with the media on newsworthy issues. Far from being an obstacle to journalists, we're often busting a gut on their behalf to get a response, but senior management/ clients can and do put pressing business before media comment. It doesn't help that the media won't want to hear it from the spokesperson.
But if the media didn't push for the best interviewee they could get, they wouldn't be doing their job.
So let's get on with engaging with and helping the media so we reap the reward of an unsolicited call from a journalist or broadcaster the next time they need a response on the topic. Don't forget that all good journalists have their equivalent of 'the little black book' whether it's on or offline.

Doctor Spin

Wise words Penny. The PR's agenda and journalist's agenda are not the same. The PR serves a client (who in theory serves its customers). The journalist serves his/her readers. The best interests of both you could argue should be same - but very often they are not.

Truth Not Spin

Here, here. But you probably could tell what gets my goat from my original posting -- the fact that Penny's view is rarely, if ever, echoed by journalists who, instead, lovely nothing more but to bite the hand that feeds *them* and postulate on the inadequacies of PR in order to either fill some column inches. Or because they like a good old moan. But don't we all!...

Truth Not Spin

Good to see the views I expressed on this thread appear in print in two letters in this week's PR Business.

It's about b****y time the PR industry stood up to this unnecessary bashing. Especially as it's held back for so long, fearing that it would cause a backlash from offended journalists. But not now. The days of the two-faced, uncompromising journalist - most prevalent in IT it seems - are well and truly numbered...

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